Chicago & North Western No. 1385
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Open House Held for Mid-Continent Members

Apr. 6, 2014

Yesterday, April 5, a special C&NW 1385 open house was held at SPEC Machine for Mid‑Continent Railway Historical Society members. The much larger public open house held in February took place during Mid‑Continent's Snow Train weekend and thus prevented numerous museum volunteers from being able to see the 1385's progress for themselves at that time. This members-only open house was scheduled in the hours before Mid‑Continent's spring member meeting and banquet.

With the driving wheels already shipped out for repairs at Strasburg Rail Road's specialized shop, what currently remains behind at SPEC Machine has perhaps become difficult for the casual observer to still identify as being from a locomotive. Recall that the original boiler remained behind at Mid‑Continent's engine house (and construction of the replacement boiler has not yet begun), the tender which holds the locomotive's coal and water was completed last year and is on display near Mid‑Continent's depot, and the cab is being worked on separately in a shop in Fond du Lac, Wis. While it can be difficult for many people to see one of their favorite locomotives in such an advanced state of disassembly, it is the ideal point from which to begin a "from-the-rails-up" complete repair job that is currently underway and will once again make the 1385 a mainstay of Mid‑Continent's operating fleet for many years to come.

Mid-Contnient members looking at CNW 1385 running gear parts.

Mid-Continent members look around the SPEC Machine facility on April 5, 2014. Brian Allen photo. Click on the image to browse more photos from April 5th on photographer Brian Allen's Flickr album.

Driving Wheels Depart for Strasburg Rail Road

Mar. 30, 2014

Chicago & North Western No. 1385 turns 107-years-old today! That is worthy of celebration with a new steam status update.

The reach of the restoration work on Chicago & North Western No. 1385 is expanding. Restoration work on various parts of the locomotive has already or is anticipated to take place in shops in Middleton and Fond du Lac, Wisconsin as well as Plymouth and St. Paul, Minnesota. Now components of Mid-Continent’s star locomotive will be traveling even farther from home for restoration work. On Monday March 24, 2014, 1385’s 63-inch driving wheels were loaded on to a semi-trailer for shipment to Strasburg, Pennsylvania. Upon arrival the drivers will again be inspected and a repair plan will be finalized with one of the nation’s premier steam restoration shops, the Strasburg Rail Road.

Driving wheels are usually designated by number, counting upward while moving from the front of the locomotive back toward the cab. A specific wheel can be designated by referring to it as the right side (engineer‘s side) or left side (fireman’s side). For example, No. 1 driving wheel, right side would be the driving wheel farthest forward on the engineer’s side. Simply referring to the No. 1 driver usually infers the wheels on both sides plus the connecting axle. The No. 1 and No. 3 drivers on the 1385 each weigh about 10,000 lbs. The No. 2 driver is the main driver, meaning it is the driver connected to the pistons providing the power. The No. 1 and No. 3 drivers are not directly connected to the pistons but are instead connected only to the main driver via connecting rod. The larger crank pin (cylindrical protrusion) on the main driver necessary to host these connections along with the accompanying larger counterweight needed means the main driver weighs an extra hefty 15,000 lbs.

Forklift carring 1385 driver

The scale of the 63-inch drivers become apparent when being picked up by SPEC Machine's forklift. Loading the drivers onto a flatbed semi-trailer would require something a bit bigger. Brian Allen photo.

C&NW wheels being lowered on to trailer

A crane lowers the No. 2 driver from C&NW 1385's onto a semi-trailer for shipment to Strasburg Rail Road in Strasburg, PA. Brian Allen photo.


View more recent photos: March 6 Inspection photos. Wheel Loading Album 1, Wheel Loading Album 2 Loading Video Part 1 and Part 2

Being sent to Strasburg Rail Road along with the drivers is a list of known repairs as well as items for further inspection. While the entire scope of work needed is not yet known, the following items will be addressed.

The drivers will each be receiving a new set of tires. Steam locomotive tires are a removable ring of steel, usually weighing several hundred pounds, that surround each wheel center. Just as a tire tread on an automobile wears down from rolling along the highway and is designed to be replaced after a number of miles, the tire on a locomotive also wears down over time due to its contact with the railhead and brake shoes and must be reshaped and eventually replaced. Each of the six driving wheels will be receiving brand new tires during their stay in Strasburg.

Before the new tires are applied, the wheel centers will be turned on a wheel lathe. This process means a thin layer will be shaved off the wheel center (see below photos). By doing so, places of uneven wear or other imperfections will be removed, providing a uniformly smooth and round surface on which the tires can be mounted. As the tires are applied to the wheel centers they are heated which causes them to expand. They are then slid onto the wheel centers and gauged to ensure proper distance between the tires and proper placement on the axle before they cool. When the tires cool and shrink they will grip the wheel centers tightly and, with the freshly prepared surface of the wheel center, will not slip out of place during normal operation.

C&NW wheel lathe machine

Worn tires are reprofiled on a wheel lathe at the Chicago & North Western 40th Street shops in Chicago in Dec. 1942. C&NW 1385's drivers will be turned on a wheel lathe similar to this one. Jack Delano photo. Library of Congress collection.

Flame engulfing locomotive wheel

A tire is heated so that it may expand and be fitted to the wheel center. Photo from Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe shop in Shopton, IA, taken Mar. 1943. Jack Delano photo. Library of Congress collection.

C&NW driving wheel and axle with parts identified

Volunteer Nancy Kaney cleans one of 1385's drivers. Important parts are identified. See the Jan. 11, 2014 post for more photos from that day. Brian Allen photo.

The hub liners, identified on the above photo, will also receive a final inspection at Strasburg.

The journal is the portion of the axle onto which the weight of the boiler, cab and everything else supported by the frame, rests. The weight is transferred from the frame to the journals via a driving box. Housed within the driving box is the crown brass, a bronze composition that wraps over the top of the journal. When moving, a thin film of grease prevents excessive friction between the two surfaces, but some friction does still occur. This is the reason the crown brass is composed of softer metal than the journal, to ensure the crown brass receives the majority of the wear. Crown brasses are more easily and cost effectively replaced. Despite these designs, the journal can still be subject to wear over time. The journals of the 1385’s drivers will be carefully inspected and reported on by Strasburg.

In the photograph of the driving boxes the crown brass is the bronze-colored arch seen inside the box. Also shown is the wear plate on the driving box. The wear plate is lined with babbitt which is a relatively soft material (like the brass) and bears on the hub liner of the wheel center during normal operation. The wear plate takes up the side-to-side movement of the axles and provides a relatively easily replaceable component during normal repair.

Worker using overhead crane to lift driving box from axle

Steve Roudebush hoists a driving box off a journal. See the Dec. 23, 2013 post for more photos from that day. Brian Allen photo.

Close-up of driving box

The driving box transfers the weight of the boiler, cab, and other components on to the axles. The journal passes through the center. The crown brass is the bronze-colored semi-circular plate lining the inside. The wear plate (on face toward camera) takes on wear from side-to-side movement. Brian Allen photo.

If no surprises are found by the Strasburg shop crew, the refurbishment of 1385’s drivers could be completed as soon as late 2014. When it comes to restoring historic railroad equipment though, not encountering a least a few surprises along the way might be considered… surprising.

Back at SPEC Machine, work will continue on the frame and additional running gear components. The latest activity has centered on the rear frame plate. On March 24, what the drawings refer to as the footplate was removed. This is a large steel casting at the tail of the locomotive frame that is bolted into the frame. The drawbar that connects the locomotive to the tender - and thereby the rest of the train - attaches to this casting so all the power the locomotive generates is applied to this point. Several cracks and major necessary repairs were found during inspection. The worst crack is highlighted in the photograph below. The cuts in the casting were part of the extraction procedure. For the safety of crew and passengers of future 1385-led trains, as well as to ensure long term operation, it was decided to replace the footplate.

Overhead crane removing footplate from chassis

The footplate is hoisted from the frame. Brian Allen photo.

Circle showing location of crack in footplate

A significant crack (shown in red circle) will necessitate replacement of the footplate. Refer to the Feb. 6, 2014 post to see the inspection in-progress. Brian Allen photo.


View more photos of recent work: 3/24/2014 Bolt Removal, 3/20/2014 Footplate Removal, and 3/20/2014 Rear Chassis Analysis

Open House Exceeds Expectations

Feb. 24, 2014

The C&NW No. 1385 Open House event held, Feb. 15-16, was a smashing success. Leading up to the event, the 1385 team was hoping for an attendance of 300 for the weekend. To their surprise, an estimated 1,100 people made their way to the open house at SPEC Machine outside of Middleton, Wis.

Locomotive parts were arrayed throughout the shop to facilitate easy viewing. The team did an excellent job of turning an assortment of locomotive parts into an impromptu mini-museum. Major components of the locomotive were labeled, a poster and slide show provided visuals of work on the 1385 completed elsewhere, artwork was on display, and 1385's headlight was illuminated, giving the disassembled locomotive an almost subtle prescience of the renewed life it is about to receive.

Crowd looking around SPEC Machine

Visitors in the foreground watch a slide show about the 1385 and its restoration to-date while other visitors view the locomotive's various parts spread throughout the SPEC Machine shop and speak with project leaders. Steve Roudebush photo. Click the photo for more images from the day.

Representatives of Mid-Continent and SPEC Machine were spread around the shop, answering questions and explaining the locomotive's ongoing work, its history and its future. The steady stream of people proved interest in the locomotive extends beyond just dyed-in-the-wool railfans. Mike Wahl, C&NW 1385 project manager notes, "It was great to see that a lot of the visitors were just general interest people who had seen it in the paper. This event has opened the door to a new group of people interested in the restoration of the locomotive."

Bobbie Wagner of the Wagner Foundation and a Mid-Continent director, was impressed by the experience. "The enthusiasm of the crowd was amazing. I heard several remarks like 'I never thought I would see the 1385 running again in my lifetime, and now I am looking forward to it.'"

While excitement certainly centers on the locomotive's return to operation, the chance to learn about the restoration process was also greatly appreciated. "There was much reminiscing, but also a huge interest in the logistics of the project itself. They were especially grateful to have the opportunity to see a project such as this first-hand and up-close," Wagner says. "They were very appreciative of the information that Mike [Wahl], Pete [Deets] and Steve [Roudebush] were able to give them."

Aside from the knowledge of steam locomotive restoration gained, visitors who made a $5 donation were offered another keepsake from their visit. A computer numerical control (CNC) milling machine has been utilized during the disassembly stage of the restoration to produce durable part ID tags, allowing for the easy identification and reassembly of all parts when the time comes. Only a slight modification to the ID tag design produced a unique souvenir that could be machined right before the eyes of their new owners. "The medallions were a big hit," says Wagner. "There was a line waiting for them most all day long." Over 150 medallions were produced during the weekend.

Media outlets also picked up on the open house event. Here are some news links discussing the open house:

Television Station Video:

WISC-TV 3 (Madison, WI)

WMTV 15 (Madison, WI)

Newspaper/Magazine Coverage:

Trains Magazine

The Waunakee Tribune

Wisconsin State Journal (and others via Associated Press news wire)

Online Video Coverage: YouTube Page

Midwest Zephyr Media YouTube Page

Two New C&NW 1385 Displays Up, More Planned

Feb. 11, 2014

Just in time for Snow Train visitors, two new displays about the C&NW 1385 have been put up in the depot. One new display breaks out all the parts of the locomotive and describes the restoration status for each element. The second display discusses the importance of the 1385 to the museum as its "Ambassador of Steam," traveling around the Upper Midwest in years past providing a chance for thousands of people to experience steam railroading in their own cities and towns.

Additional displays on the 1385 (and other equipment) are planned for the 2014 season as well. Special thanks goes to volunteer Randy Long (Long & Associates Creative Services) for doing the lion's share of work on getting these together!

Ambassador of the Rails Display

"Ambassador of the Rails" C&NW 1385 display in MCRM's depot.

C&NW 1385 On Track to Operation Display

"On Track to Operation" C&NW 1385 display in MCRM's depot.

Speaking of the Ambassador of Steam, a new 1385-exclusive special edition of the Mid-Continent Railway Gazette is at the print shop and is expected to be going in the mail to Mid-Continent Railway Historical Society members sometime next week. At 52 pages, it is the largest Gazette ever and covers the locomotive's 1983 travels over the Chicago & North Western system to events at Butler, WI, West Chicago, IL, Boone, IA, Marshalltown, IA, Marathon, IA, Duluth, MN and many other points along the way that year. Once it arrives from the print shop, the issue will also be made available for sale to non-members by calling the Mid-Continent office.

Mid-Continent Railway Gazette cover

Cover of Mid-Continent Railway Gazette No. 46, No. 4. The issue recounts the C&NW 1385's travels around the Upper Midwest in 1983. Cover photo by Brian Allen shown is the 1385 leaving the Wisconsin State Capitol behind on Sept. 6, 1983.

In-Depth Running Gear Inspections In Progress

Feb. 9, 2014

The completion of sandblasting on the C&NW 1385's running gear last month has cleared the way for detailed inspection work to begin. Without the years of paint, grease, and rust interfering, clear views of the condition of various running gear components can now be had.

On February 3 and 4, 2014, project members gathered at SPEC Machine to inspect the locomotive. While in its disassembled state, this will be the best opportunity to find and correct any existing or developing issues. With any luck, it will be another 107 years (the locomotive's 107th birthday is next month) before the locomotive would be disassembled to such an extensive degree again. Aside from inspecting for signs of defects and fatigue, the inspection included taking many measurements of the frame, driving wheels, driving boxes, and other components and comparing the current measurements with the original Chicago & North Western specifications to examine the amount of wear.

Today, the Wisconsin State Journal published a nice story about the C&NW 1385's restoration work. Unfortunately, there are a few items in the story in need of clarification. They include:

Don't forget - the C&NW 1385 open house takes place this coming weekend (Feb. 15-16) at SPEC Machine (see previous post). Mid-Continent Railway Museum's Snow Train special event also operates Feb. 15-16.

C&NW 1385 team inspecting locomotive chassis

Mike Wahl, C&NW 1385 project manager provides light for the group as they comb the locomotive's frame for any possible defects that need to be addressed. Inspecting up close is Steve Sandberg. chief operating officer of the Friends of the 261, the group responsible for returning Milwaukee Road No. 261 to operation. Sandberg has been brought on as a consultant for the C&NW 1385 rebuild. Mid-Continent's Ed Ripp and Kyle Gehrke along with Steve Roudebush of SPEC Machine also look on. Feb. 3, 2014. Brian Allen photo. Click on the image to browse more photos from the day on photographer Brian Allen's Flickr album.

C&NW 1385 Open House Announced

Jan. 25, 2014

Mid-Continent's 1385 Steam Task Force is pleased to announce an upcoming open house session Saturday and Sunday, February 15-16, 2014 from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. The open house will take place at SPEC Machine's Middleton, Wis. location where the 1385's running gear is currently undergoing restoration work. Restoration team members will be on hand to explain the process and answer questions. This event is completely free.

The open house coincides with Mid-Continent's annual Snow Train weekend taking place as usual at our North Freedom, Wis. location. SPEC Machine is approximately 45 minutes driving time from North Freedom and is only minutes away from the Madison area.

Click here for the full PDF brochure.

Open house brochure cover

Chassis Sandblasted, New 1385 Displays Taking Shape

Jan. 21, 2014

Following a premature end to sandblasting on Friday due to cold weather conditions causing equipment hiccups, Howard Grote & Sons's Surface Preparation Division was back on site at SPEC Machine in Middleton, Wis. on Monday, January 20th. While last Thursday's sandblasting featured work on the driving wheels, Monday's work centered on clearing grease, paint and rust form the chassis.

Worker sandblasting chassis

Sandblasting of C&NW No. 1385's running gear continued on Monday, January 20th. This time, efforts centered on the locomotive's chassis. Click on the image to browse more photos from January 20th on photographer Brian Allen's Flickr album.

Not all work on the C&NW 1385 involves grit and grime. There has been a great deal of work lately on 1385 in the non-mechanical realm. A meeting date later this month has been set with officials from the Wisconsin Department of Transportation and the Village of North Freedom to inspect the rebuilt tender and associated display. The 1385 project has had the fortune of being aided by a TEA-21 grant administered through WisDOT and the Village. The successful completion of the tender rebuild and its subsequent display is anticipated to release the final set of funds from the grant which began during the locomotive's initial overhaul work shortly after being pulled from service in 1998.

Design work on additional displays about the 1385's career and current restoration efforts has been an ongoing effort with members of the restoration team and volunteers coordinating their efforts. A special tip-of-the-hat goes to Randy Long of Long & Associates Creative Services. Randy and wife Lynn have been a boon to the 1385 project since joining Mid-Continent in 2013. The Long's have been crucial in the creation of the new display sign created for the 1385 tender and is currently making headway on new 1385 displays planned for inside the depot. The 1385 project team is putting forth a great deal of effort to not only put 1385 back under steam, but also make sure museum visitors are able to appreciate why the locomotive is worth restoring.

C&NW 1385 On Track to Operation Display

"On Track To Operation" is one of the new display signs currently being designed. Plans call for the display which outlines restoration progress to be placed in the 1894 C&NW depot.

An early draft of the "Ambassador Of the Rails: 1982-1998" seen here is one of the numerous new C&NW No. 1385 history displays planned for installation at Mid-Continent in time for the 2014 season.

Sandblasting of Running Gear In-Progress

Jan. 19, 2014

Sandblasting of C&NW No. 1385's running gear began on Thursday, January 16th at the SPEC Machine shop in Middleton, Wis. All three sets of drivers were sandblasted along with one pallet of parts. Work was done by Howard Grote & Sons of McFarland, Wis. The chassis was to be sandblasted on Friday the 17th, but Mother Nature intervened with temperatures in the teens causing the hoses and air lines to freeze up. The unfinished sandblasting was rescheduled for Monday, January 20th, but as of the time of writing this post, temperatures are predicted to be similar to that on the 17th.

Sandblasting is used to help remove all the past accumulated rust and layers of paint. Exposing the bare metal makes inspections of the parts much easier and more accurate as as layers of rust, paint and grease can serve to hide cracks and other defects which need to be identified at this stage of the restoration.

A Howard Grote & Sons employee works through the snow and cold to sandblast the a set of drivers belonging to C&NW No. 1385. Click on the image to browse more photos from January 16 on photographer Brian Allen's Flickr album.

BEFORE (Jan. 11)

Image of driving wheels with paint and grime

AFTER (Jan. 17)

Image of clean driving wheels with no paint or grime

Locomotive Clean Up

Jan. 11, 2014

With the C&NW No. 1385 running gear now mostly in pieces, a thorough cleaning of the various parts is now the immediate task ahead. The day's task called for scraping grease, needle scaling rust, parts washing and other work in preparation for sandblasting. Some rough weather limited volunteer turnout, but a few brave souls braved the elements.

While some went about cleaning duties, others were pulling out their micrometers and measuring eccentric parts. Although large, numerous key parts of steamers such as No. 1385 have incredibly small tolerances and must be machined to to within thousands of an inch of specification in order to be accepted.

Once again, Brian Allen was on hand to photograph some of the day's activities.

C&NW No. 1385 Task Force member Pete Deets passes along the following message: "Thank you to everyone who braved the elements & changes on the fly. A good day was had by all and parts are a greater step closer to clean enough for inspection. I'm fairly certain there will be another cleaning party but it won't get planned until after the sandblasting."

Nancy Kaney and an unidentified volunteer scrape built up grease off the 1385's driving wheels. Click on the image to browse more photos from the day on photographer Brian Allen's Flickr album.

First Element of New C&NW No. 1385 Displays Installed

Jan. 1, 2014

Visitors to Mid-Continent in 2014 can look forward to new exhibits during their visit. The rebuilt C&NW #1385 tender, delivered in November 2013, now has an accompanying interpretive sign in place. Additional displays about No. 1385 and other museum pieces are also in the works!

Initial response to the new sign has been positive. The C&NW 1385 team received the following message from a Mid-Continent member: "By the way, I don't know who came up with the new sign for the 1385 tender, but I just wanted to say it's probably the most professional looking informational sign we have the property!... Please pass my compliments along to whoever designed it.”

For the record, the sign was a collaborative effort between the numerous members of the C&NW 1385 Task Force and volunteers Randy Long and Jeffrey Lentz lending their talents.

New C&NW 1385 tender display sign with completed tender in background

New display sign for the C&NW No. 1385 tender, located in the display structure just outside the depot. Photo courtesy of Randy Long.

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